Random rakingsDead babies wave their arms in celebration! Ratzinger rethinks Limbo
Vatican panel urges ending "limbo".. Limbo, of course, is the Catholic tenet that unbaptized babies are punished by not going to Heaven, but are not bad enough that they have to go to Hell.. Pope Benedict XVI now says that there is hope for the salvation of these babies.. For centuries, Catholic women who had stillborn babies or lost their babies immediately after birth were told that their children would never be in good fortunes in their afterlife.. REUTERS PHOTO
posted by schmuckraker at
4/21/2007 09:57:00 AM
7 Comments:
Balderdash!
dead babies wave their arms in celebration? what kind of a sick f*ck are you? you got any idea how deplorable that headline is?
not sure who you are anyomous, but I think I realize what the author was doing hear. Even realize how sick of a thought the catholic church had making people think their babies went to limbo? it's sarcasm
I was reading http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/vatican-abolishes-limbo-opening-gates-of-heaven-for-babies/2007/04/21/1176697158063.html and thought this was notable: "The many factors that we have considered ... give serious theological and liturgical grounds for hope that unbaptised infants who die will be saved," says a document published by the US magazine Origins with the approval of Pope Benedict XVI."
maybe the fact it's one of the craziest nutjob ideas we've even been taught? I went to catholic school until the 10th grade and had to move so no more nuns adn priets for me, but we got into more fights with teachers over this idea of baby limbo than anything else. Just the belief itself being so nuts isn't tough to debate, but they chose to! I wish I could go back now and see what Sister Mary thinks of the babies being freed!
And on the headline the author used? i agree, i think it was sarcasm, so i don't have a problem with it. it's not like he was advocating killing babies.
what is this, "be kind to thoughtless morons" month? i know what sarcasm is. i also know the author was attempting, however lamely, to employ the use of satire. and of course it's about the most ridiculous teaching the church has ever poisoned us with. but "dead babies wave their arms in celebration"? i have more than a fair share of dead babies in my family - some baptized and many not - and i think if the author had ever seen an actual dead baby in the brittle flesh he would have sought some other headline more sensitive to the subject and more directly scathing of the church. something like "Vatican grows brains and a conscience. (indulgences still for sale at the door)." that's the only way to deal with bullies anyway. the image of a dead baby in celebration, however sarcastic, leaves much to be desired. i don't even really care, either, but dead babies are no joking matter, in my humble and disgruntled opinion. peace out.
The thought of dead babies spending an eternity in limbo....a place of nothingness...stikes me as much more barbaric than a dead baby actually enjoying the rewards of the next plane, or eternal life...or whatever ism you attest to.
On a smaller scale, the author has seen a dead baby and felt the overwhelming sense of grief when she was bureid somewhere other than Roman Catholic property. She couldn't be buried in her family's cemetary, as she lacked baptism and therefore still held the stains of original sin. And we certainly wouldn't want the dead, unbaptized babies infecting all of the other carcasses, now would we?
Enya
who are you, the author's mother? tell me, do you still cut his meat for him as well? i've not only seen several dead babies but one was my brother. i have a dead baby nephew and some cousins buried - without stones - outside the threshhold of the Roman Catholic cemetery where the rest of my "baptized" family is so that they're the first graves stepped on by visitors to the graveyard. i know a LITTLE something about the cruel bigotry of the Catholic church. get over yourselves and get real.
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